[ColorForth] colorForth ~popularity

[Tin Bee <tin_bee@xxxxxxxxx>]

any body on the list read the fountainhead? because my
post will be in that vein.

i have been hearing lots of talk about popularity, the
population still consist of individuals, there is no
way a population can make decisions, decisions are
made by individuals, popularity is mearly the amalgam
of many decisions, and thus in and of itself lacks
integrity, lacks a central theme.

anyone who aserts that you must follow the pack is a
second-hander and a second-rater, terified of making a
dicision for them self.

mr. moore has proven by his actions that he is a
first-hand thinker a man who chooses not to subjugate
his mind to the whim of the unthinking mob, but to
think and act acording to his own judgement.

the standardised ANSI forth in contrast is just
another example of mediocrety both in mind and in
spirit, just look at its central theme, "it must be
common across any hardware" then its creators looted
mr. moore's ideas and scuried around tring to find
every posible case in wich to fit it to the above
mentioned theme.

mr. moore, you are a good man, you do not need to hear
that, but you deserve to hear it.

-scott graue-

--- t <loveall@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Moore" <chipchuck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "ColorForth List Member"
> <ColorForth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 6:10 AM
> Subject: [ColorForth] colorForth ~popularity
> 
> 
> > When you say no customers will consider
> colorForth, what flavor of Forth
> > will they accept, if any?
> 
> There is a customer of mine who manufacture several
> lines of
> Non-Destructive-Test equipment. They are running
> custom based Forth which I
> developed for them over 10 years ago. Use 6809,
> 68000, 68030, 68040 and i386
> CPUs. UDP networking code for all but the 6809.
> 
> They started off with with a block based address
> interpreter Forth but were
> quite delighted when I provided ASCII text direct
> threaded subroutine versions
> customized for each CPU. They have been doing their
> own Forth application
> development for the last 5 years using CodeWright
> text editor on the PC or
> vi/emacs under HPUX. Only brought me back in for
> fixing archane compiler bugs
> which they had not encountered until just recently
> on a new product
> development.
> 
> They were mildly interested in colorForth as a
> concept but are switching to
> Unix/linux as a development target. Don't need
> specialized Forth programmers
> for that, but can hire off the street. Of course
> they have taken 5 years to get
> their first *nix based system out the door, where
> the Forth based products
> typically take 6 months for the same functionality.
> 
> About 7 years ago their management went conservative
> and decided to switch over
> to unix target development. They subsequently have
> gone from being the
> technology leader who drove their market place to
> wannabes following the
> market.
> 
> I am not aware of anyone else in the Seattle area
> doing Forth based product
> development. For the last 4 years all of my new
> contract work has been
> unix/linux or Windows based. Management wants common
> tool/language development.
> 
> Maybe I just am not a good Forth evangelist, but the
> market place has
> definitely changed.
> 
> Regards,
> Terry Loveall
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