Re: [colorforth] Problem with ColorForth 2.0

[John Drake <jmdrake_98@xxxxxxxxx>]

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From: Ray St. Marie <ray.stmarie@xxxxxxxxx>

> Your welcome. I think I may have finely reached the point of forgettin
> more about colorforth than I know. This is the reason for the new
> wiki, comming soon.

Yes.  It's a good idea.

> I know. That last message WAS supposed to be taken in jest, something
> I continually fail at in text. I don't know when to quit.Sorry if I
> came off wrong as well. :-)

Ok.  Sorry for missing the humor!  :)  I did clean that blog post up
though.  I don't want anyone mistaking what I was saying.  Heck
I may even take the "haters" comment out.  I no longer care what
folks on a certain newsgroup think. 

>> As for it "only" taking 3 minutes to look up
>> the codes....I can type 59 words per minute.
>> (Admittedly not that fast using Dvorak), so
>> relatively speaking that's not that fast.  It
>> doesn't matter if your program doesn't require
>> much text output.  But say if someone
>> wanted to recreate Zork in ColorForth?
>> It all depends on if your "hello world" program
>> is an exercise to itself or a building block
>> for something else you want to do.

> What it was supposed to speak to is using the proper solution for the
> problem at hand and not codeing a general solution "which never comes
> up." <per C.Moore> Another point that I have failed to make over the
> years about this very string of code.

And how do you know I'm not planning on writing a ColorForth
Zork clone? ;)  Seriously remember when I wrote this I had started
on my project of translating the "Starting Forth" examples to
ColorForth.  I realize I haven't finished that yet.  (Got sidetracked
by various other projects) but if/when I do continue I will need
to do text output at various stages and frankly looking up codes
and putting them on the stack in reverse order doesn't do it for
me.  The "buzzword" phrase generator would be particularly
painful.

ftp://ftp.taygeta.com/pub/Forth/Applications/ANS/strtfrth.txt

Besides, Chucks way to do "Hello World" was to just
enter it onto an edit screen.  ;)

I should add that the "look up codes" example was helpful in
understanding how "show" works.

> The text handling routines that you came up with are the very things
> that Howerd, Mark, Tim, myself and I'm sure others, have coded in the
> past. This means there seems to be at the most factorized level, a
> congruent way to deal with text presentation. This makes me feel good.
> You are to be praised for finding it yourself, just like the others.
> This IS ROCKET SCIENCE after all. :-)

Yes you are correct.  I ran across the work you guys did after
trudging through this myself.  Again I support Wiki's, blogs
and whatever we can do to keep folks from redoing what's
already been done.

>> Regards,
>>
>> John M. Drake

> Your friend in living COLOR
> Ray

> PS. it didn't even take three minutes :-)
> I was looking at Chucks packed letter codes at his site, which were
> not even correct  for some letters.  But I did include the process I
> use when I don't have that infront of me in the post, for those who
> might like to use the very "technique" < is an overboard word>.

Is there a link to the corrected code list?

Regards,

John M. Drake



      

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