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Re: Art/Net Comp/Printer

Many people are talking about many things, but I think we should focus on
markable ares where Misc can make a difference.

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>From: Louis Frazier <cogniscu@tmn.com>
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>Wayne, I don't know if this kicks off (HS)embedded, but I'll give it a try.
>
>I blush to say such obvious things in the presence of Chuck and probably 
>Jeff as well as anyone else who knows what went on at Xerox Parc 
>(Palo Alto Research Center) 25 year ago, but xx21 processors should be in 
>every printer in the world. I found my way to FORTH via Postscript, the 
>rpn language which is the defacto standard for page/screen description. 
>It is the standard because it is best able to put points on a surface or 
>in space. I don't know which came first (I'm sure someone will tell me 
>shortly), but Forth and PS are so much alike, either could be 
>encapsulated in the other -- and probably has been. 
>

(HS) Printers

>This brings me to the mass market. Sun is touting "net-centric" computing
>in trade shows this week. They are talking about the successor to the PC
>being a good display and keyboard hooked to a fast graphics computer that
>gets all it's software and information from the net, at three megahertz, as
>it needs it. I'm betting that xx21-type hardware (MISC, FORTH) will be the
>best candidate for these systems which will be more pervasive than laser
>printers in a few years. 
> 
>HTML, the primitive composition program we are using on the net today, can 
>easily be written in Postscript. (Adobe has no doubt done it.) Netscape 
>and all the other browsers are going to  be forced to go to Postscript 
>eventually to be really competitive. Things are happening awfully fast 
>right now, and probably most of the software work is in alpha at least.

(HS) Net Comp

>
>People who are interested in applications these days can start with 
>silicon, as Chuck has  proven with MuP21. We who are following MISC are 
>on the leading edge of something big and it behooves us to learn as much 
>as we can from each other, whatever our interests are.
>
>At 70 I consider myself an artist dedicated to expressing the beauty and the 
>power of the technologies we've been working in and applying since Edison 
>invented the triode. 
>
>I want my art to demonstrate the leading edge of networking. I want to 
>build a piece that is a free-standing entity on the net, able to interact 
>with its viewers, ascertain their interests and go to the net to satisfy 
>them - with music, images, sounds, questions, answers -- anything that 
>seems to interest them. I expect that many artists will produce thousands 
>of works in the next few years to appeal to a new generation of 
>technology-aware art lovers, just the way millions of painters and 
>sculptors have met their aesthetic needs in the past. 
>
>To do this, artists will need all the usual art materials plus vast
>quantities of cheap chips like xx21's, just they way they've consumed
>millions of tubes of paint since someone put paint in a lead tooth paste
>tube and started the impressionist movement of outdoor painting in the
>19th century. I am interested in learning from anyone who has ideas about
>applying MISC to art.

This is a bit abstract Louis, it a bit hard to pin down and what sort of market,
but maybe (HS) Art.  Obviously this might be a bit of a restricted market,
but if you regard it as a hobby (like the interest of a few of us) then it
is still quiet valid and I won't deny you the privelage of the enjoyment. 
At the same time you could be talking about (correct me if I'm wrong)
Artist hanging super servers of the net that do stupendous supercomputing
feats that delivers contents to users, maybe (HS) parrallel Comp.  Which
ever subject any of you choose to be interested in I encourage you to start a
thread on the subject, so we don't get confused by cross talk, and rerail
the process..


Wayne
 
So if there are others interested in this
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