Re:Misc Mailing List is Back

[Eugene Leitl <Eugene.Leitl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, Wayne Morellini wrote:

> > [...]
> 
> There are other Forth Processors the SC-32 from silicon composers, the
> Harris RTX-200x is still available but only limited versions.  The Mup-21 is
> a good concept and I can sell you my kit. The others we are still waiting

I, too, think MuP21 is good. I still hope to switch to the F21 with 
minimal conversion effort, should it become avialable in 5-6 months, the 
end of the time slot alloted to the prototype. Since MuP21 is so very 
similiar to MuP21, its the logical choice. Particularly, high absolute 
performance and excellent MIPS/Watt ratio as well as NOP power saving 
capability are very interesting, since mine is a mobile application 
demanding sophisticated power management.

However (I know I should ask Dr. Ting directly, but he's probably busy 
and maybe any of you MISCers might already know) 

- is the MuP21 $350 kit still available?

- how many days does one wait for delivery?

- is MuP21 available in medium quantities (100-1000 pcs) on short notice? 
  At which prices?

- is the MuP21 kit stand-alone? (Meaning, can I just hook up a standard 
  PC keyboard and a (NTSC/PAL) CRT to it and use it for native 
  development platform?)

- what does it use for mass storage? Flash memory cards?

- can one use the digital I/O ports to do several RS232 by software?

- is the only difference between the $100 and the $350 kit is that the 
  latter is assembled? (Meaning, containing the same parts, identical 
  documentation and ROM image?)

> for, the Mup-21 execution has been reported to break after something like
> 100's of hours, but new packaging that was due soon this time last year and

What??? You mean all MuP21 samples one can buy are uncapable of sustained 
operation???

Can somebody please confirm this observation?

> apart from requests nothing else has really been said about it to my
> knowledege, this packaging should fix a lot of problems, video resoluation
> isn't great 384*2xx.  The F-21 and I-21 is supposed to be much better.

384x200 is sufficient for starters. 640x512 would be better, though.
 
> >
> >> the page with I21 press release on Jeffs Web site that says it will be
> >> available for licencing etc, despite the denial of ITV when I enquired,
> >
> >I think i21 won't, but F21 will (provided, I'll ever live to see it).
> 
> Like I21 like F-21, but wanted I21 type device.

Afair i21 was meant to be proprietary technology, avalable only to iTV.

> 
> >
> >> despite Jeff removing the new pages a day or two after I origionally saw
> >> them), and THE 32-BIT P32.  Announcements of products would be good too.
> >
> >Seconded fully.
> >
> >Eugene Leitl
> > 
> 
> Thanks Eugene.

Eugene

> Wayne Morellini
> waynem1@cq-pan.cqu.edu.au
> 
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> 
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