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Re: networked processors and parallelism


Jeff Fox writes:

 > About the only people who understand multiprocessing think
 > that the only thing it is good for is supercomputing FP
 > number crunching.   When I would talk about F21 at the

Err, but these are very important applications. 

Give Beowulfs some time. Small footprint 64 node machines are already
being made, it's only a question of time before you'll be able to buy
a multi-node Beowulf box with stackable CPU boards. There QNX and
Fiasko, so the kernel footprint will get better, if there's demand for 
it.

 > parallel processing connection they could never get it
 > at all.  These people think 'C' and Unix are toy languages
 > so you can imagine how much they understand of Forth.

Uh, the era of Fortran *is* passing, albeit slowly. They've got
awfully good Fortran compilers for the Alpha, and there's still lots
of legacy out there.

Right now the supercomputer market is dominated by Unix and C.

 > They think you need a lot more for what they do than you
 > need for C or Unix.  They really can't begin to grasp
 > the concept of something with 100 times less than C and
 > Unix.

Jeff, F21 is very much useless for scientific computing, apart from
very very few exceptions.

Moroever, the price of a shelved Linux box, bought in quantities, can
be surprisingly low. Systems on MISC are not exactly cheap, nor easily
available.

I think the future of MISC is programmable logic and minimal systems,
which have a niche for embeddeds, cryptography, etc.